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  1. One more reason to flush the dealer system

    https://247wallst.com/autos/2021/11/16/wrangler-is-the-car-that-dealers-overcharge-for-the-most/ This headline just crossed my feed. JL is #1 (28.6% over MSRP), JT is #4 (26.0% over MSRP), and JLU is #8 (24.2% over MSRP). It checks out with what I've been seeing around here.
  2. Idea: Group Shipping

    To my knowledge, the best deal in the country is Gupton in TN. As far as I can tell, they're the ONLY dealer playing hardball on price with 8% under invoice plus any additional manufacturer incentives. Unfortunately, they're in TN. For more than half the country, that makes the math considerably...
  3. Gladiator is Highest Ranked in JD Power Initial Quality for 2021 Midsize Pickups

    https://www.jdpower.com/sites/default/files/file/2021-08/2021066%20U.S.%20IQS.pdf See p. 7
  4. Dual Door Group

    MY22 can be ordered with half doors from the factory. "Dual door group" Two versions: Base, and Premium.
  5. Old school style fender welting?

    I don't have my truck yet, but I'm trying to get my ducks lined up. I've seen that it's common to push rubber cord into the gap between the fenders and body to keep pebbles from getting in there and chewing up the paint, but it seems like it likes to work its way back out, doesn't survive car...
  6. Running board sliders

    I'm trying to find a set of frame mounted sliders in a running board form factor. Specifically, I want the obvious skid protection, functional steps for short family members, and a solid barrier between the front tires and everything behind them to protect against rocks and slush. I've owned a...
  7. Current color availability

    The last time I ordered a Jeep (a 2016 JKUR for my wife), we went in wanting a very specific color. We learned at that time that Jeep rotates through color production and availability, and while some colors are always available (the standard shades of white to black and red, IIRC), the good...
  8. Order Sheet Tips and Tricks

    When you order a vehicle and you get to pick whatever you want from the menu, but not every menu item is exactly as it seems. You want a large fries ($2), but if you order a value meal (also $2) you get a bonus burger and beverage! Additionally, sometimes there are options and combos that don't...
  9. If you could do it again... Gas or Diesel?

    You're out on the trail at the head of the group. You've got a little distance on the second truck in line due to a challenging obstacle. While you're waiting for them to catch up, you look off into the distance and... A magical wish granting talking yeti emerges! He leans his blurry face down...
  10. Gasser real world fuel economy

    I expect to be ordering a Gladiator in the next month or two (selling my current truck while the market is hot), and trying to decide between gas and diesel. There's a thread in the diesel forum re: real world mpg, but not here in the gasser section. So, post up what you're getting along with...


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