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  1. Report: 2024 Gladiator Reveal @ NAIAS in Sept | Production Begins November | Gladiator 4xe PHEV Replacing Diesel

    We have a toyota rav4 prime, which is great when it is charged, but it is definitely different when the charge is gone. Having driven it on a six hour trip, it doesn't have an endless pot of gold hybrid energy source. Maybe there is some wizardry that allows for some reserve power, but that...
  2. Report: 2024 Gladiator Reveal @ NAIAS in Sept | Production Begins November | Gladiator 4xe PHEV Replacing Diesel

    Right. 80-90% of the time I am perfectly fine with a 20 mile range. But once or twice a month I might drive 400 miles to go skiing or the beach. I would be curious to do the math to see where the breakeven point is for sticking with gas if one exceeds X number of miles a month. My...
  3. Report: 2024 Gladiator Reveal @ NAIAS in Sept | Production Begins November | Gladiator 4xe PHEV Replacing Diesel

    I haven't figured out if leasing still has the household income threshold. Anyone know of someone that leased the Wrangler 4xe that encountered that scenario? I am not sure how folks without higher household incomes can afford $60K+ vehicles. I think leasing the Gladiator 4xe is the way to go...
  4. Report: 2024 Gladiator Reveal @ NAIAS in Sept | Production Begins November | Gladiator 4xe PHEV Replacing Diesel

    I don't doubt you. Why do they list recommended fuel as premium in their specs then?
  5. Report: 2024 Gladiator Reveal @ NAIAS in Sept | Production Begins November | Gladiator 4xe PHEV Replacing Diesel

    Even on short range PHEV's? That doesn't seem fair or make sense.
  6. Report: 2024 Gladiator Reveal @ NAIAS in Sept | Production Begins November | Gladiator 4xe PHEV Replacing Diesel

    I looked at the 4xe Wrangler and Grand Cherokee a while back, but I don't think I realized they took premium gas, too. I suspect the Gladiator 4xe would require premium, too. I pay an extra dollar a gallon now for premium over regular. With the 4xe upcharge and need for premium gas, I am not...
  7. Report: 2024 Gladiator Reveal @ NAIAS in Sept | Production Begins November | Gladiator 4xe PHEV Replacing Diesel

    Any thoughts on what the max tow rating of the 4xe would be? The GC 4xe is 6000 pounds I believe.
  8. Got rid of my new 2021 Gladiator in 2.5 months

    Although this was many years ago, a Jeep dealer covered half of the paint repair for the roof of my Jeep even though it was a few months out of warranty. Part of it was to make up for the fact someone told me it wasn't covered a few months previously when it was still under warranty. I...
  9. 2022.5 Rumors?

    Whatever happened to the Ford patent on a truck bed toolbox mounted gas generator to augment the battery range? This would seem like a no-brainer solution for extended range on long trips. I am extremely interested in the Ford Lightning and the addition of this truck bed toolbox option would...
  10. Bronco is fullsize - no comparison

    Saw this at Stowe, VT a couple of weeks ago. This was the first Bronco I've seen close up. It was parked next to a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I thought it looked good with the exception of the roof baggie. I'd be happy with a Bronco. Not everyone is going hardcore off-roading in these ridiculously...
  11. I want a Gladiator but I’m concerned it’s not safe enough for a family vehicle

    I reference the bike risk as I worked briefly in a city emergency dept. The docs referenced bike helmets as brain and blood buckets as they saw a bunch of nasty accidents and deaths from cars hitting bikes (maybe they meant motorcycles, too). Those docs swore off riding bikes in the street...
  12. I want a Gladiator but I’m concerned it’s not safe enough for a family vehicle

    I was curious how my insurance would change with a 3rd driver and 3rd car. I was surprised that WRX was so much given it cost $28K spec'd for the insurance quote whereas the Wrangler 4xe Rubicon was ~$54K and the Gladiator $47K. I get the risk doesn't equate to car price, but still. new WRX...
  13. Since no news on 4xe Gladiator this week, when is next likely update?

    Do you think the NY Auto show would have provided some updates on the 4XE plans?
  14. Drive-in movie debacle

    No. D'uh. You're supposed to order two pizzas. Anchovies optional.
  15. LOL - Every 2021 Ford Bronco With a Hardtop Needs a New One

    When it was first released, didn't the gladiator have issues with welds, rear driveshaft assembled without grease, and other issues? It's one thing to laugh at foreign company assembly lines & designs, but I wouldn't want to root against an American manufacturer. Particularly one whose product...
  16. Every time you call a Jeep a car, Baby Jesus kills a kitten ?

    Saw the best bumper sticker yesterday "Jesus loves you......everyone else thinks you're an asshole". I have a few holier than thou relatives' vehicles I'd like to stick that to.
  17. New orders - 3% under invoice with @dealersider

    I paid a little extra to buy local for my last vehicle purchase. I told the dealer I was doing so to support a local business and with some expectation they would prioritize me with any service related issues. When I had an issue a few weeks later that concerned me enough that I was afraid to...
  18. New orders - 3% under invoice with @dealersider

    Sorry. I could be mistaken, but I thought Jeep wasn't taking 4XE orders for 2021.
  19. New orders - 3% under invoice with @dealersider

    Motoarch, how did you take delivery? Did you fly down there? How is this valid on 4XE's if Jeep isn't taking any 4XE orders anymore? Is it just whatever is in stock? How does it work with trade-in's? Is anyone trading anything in? I don't think I'm trading in, but I am curious just in...
  20. "Private Bonus Cash Offer" mailer

    Just received a private bonus cash offer mailer. Towards 2021 Jeep Gladiator (Excluding Rubicon and Mojave), Jeep Wrangler (Excluding Rubicon and Wrangler 4XE) and Jeep Grand Cherokee (Including SRT and Trackhawk). I never get these when I am actively looking (although its close this time)...


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