paper service or shop manual

[NachoRuby]

Is there a paper service or shop manual available for us, or even the JL? I'll even settle for a digital one, if I have no choice, as long as it lets me print at will. I've always bought Haynes or Chiltons on every vehicle I've owned before.

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[Gvsukids]

Is there a paper service or shop manual available for us, or even the JL? I'll even settle for a digital one, if I have no choice, as long as it lets me print at will. I've always bought Haynes or Chiltons on every vehicle I've owned before.

Did you see these?

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/factory-service-manual.20430/

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/factory-service-manual-review.30415/

 

[kevman65]

The answer to your question, NO there is no hard copy service manual available.

There is also no CD or USB loaded manual available any longer.

There is the subscription service that is included in the threads linked above.

Manufacturers do NOT want vehicle owners to do ANY service themselves. They are going as far as to try and push legislation through to make their vehicles proprietary and illegal for anyone but an authorized factory trained (HAH) service tech to work on.

 

[NachoRuby]

The answer to your question, NO there is no hard copy service manual available.

There is also no CD or USB loaded manual available any longer.

There is the subscription service that is included in the threads linked above.

Manufacturers do NOT want vehicle owners to do ANY service themselves. They are going as far as to try and push legislation through to make their vehicles proprietary and illegal for anyone but an authorized factory trained (HAH) service tech to work on.

I have with a couple of problems with a subscription service
1) I have to keep paying for it
2) inevitably, once the vehicle gets old, so when I really need it, they'll pull it
I guess there's really no other option. Too bad. I'd be ok with that USB stick. I guess I'll check eBay for a used one.

 

[kevman65]

I have with a couple of problems with a subscription service
1) I have to keep paying for it
2) inevitably, once the vehicle gets old, so when I really need it, they'll pull it
I guess there's really no other option. Too bad. I'd be ok with that USB stick. I guess I'll check eBay for a used one.

I would imagine there are "pirated" versions of both the CD and the USB out there. But like any other pirated media, you have to worry about malware.

I believe it was @PyrPatriot that downloaded to a USB and then started printing out the manual. He said there were some funny restrictions to how it worked.

 

[NachoRuby]

I would imagine there are "pirated" versions of both the CD and the USB out there. But like any other pirated media, you have to worry about malware.

I believe it was @PyrPatriot that downloaded to a USB and then started printing out the manual. He said there were some funny restrictions to how it worked.

I'm looking for a legal copy. But as of now, doesn't even look like the subscription version is even available. So used USB stick might be my only option.

 

[LostWoods]

I have with a couple of problems with a subscription service
1) I have to keep paying for it
2) inevitably, once the vehicle gets old, so when I really need it, they'll pull it
I guess there's really no other option. Too bad. I'd be ok with that USB stick. I guess I'll check eBay for a used one.

They have zero incentive to pull the vehicle on a subscription service because the service is per-vehicle or it's a shop subscription to the entire catalog. The cloud costs to maintain a single manual will probably be covered by about 5 people so I wouldn't worry about that.

But fuck having to pay for a damn book in perpetuity.

It also seems that this exists but it's out of stock and still digital.

 

[Geoarch]

Is there a paper service or shop manual available for us, or even the JL? I'll even settle for a digital one, if I have no choice, as long as it lets me print at will. I've always bought Haynes or Chiltons on every vehicle I've owned before.

Out of stock.

 

[PyrPatriot]

They have zero incentive to pull the vehicle on a subscription service because the service is per-vehicle or it's a shop subscription to the entire catalog. The cloud costs to maintain a single manual will probably be covered by about 5 people so I wouldn't worry about that.

But fuck having to pay for a damn book in perpetuity.

It also seems that this exists but it's out of stock and still digital.

Yes the only option is a digital subscription or usb that cannot be easily copied. I ended up having to print about 10k pages and re-scanning them. But, that is permissible for me to do. I do not support pirating or infringing Jeep's copyrights

 

[NachoRuby]

Yes the only option is a digital subscription or usb that cannot be easily copied. I ended up having to print about 10k pages and re-scanning them. But, that is permissible for me to do. I do not support pirating or infringing Jeep's copyrights

I can't seem to find the digital subscription on tech authority. It's says not found

 

[LostWoods]

usb that cannot be easily copied.

That sounds like a challenge. Is the write protection when you open the thing or is it just copy protection on the USB itself? dd gives no fucks about copy protection so I feel like that would be trivial.

 

[NachoRuby]

That sounds like a challenge. Is the write protection when you open the thing or is it just copy protection on the USB itself? dd gives no fucks about copy protection so I feel like that would be trivial.

Yup. I'm a Linux user, so was thinking similar, but just as a challenge. I will buy it legally if I can find it. I see the subscription on all data (for 2020 only, but I'm sure nothing really changed) but I can't find a used USB anywhere.

 

[kevman65]

Yup. I'm a Linux user, so was thinking similar, but just as a challenge. I will buy it legally if I can find it. I see the subscription on all data (for 2020 only, but I'm sure nothing really changed) but I can't find a used USB anywhere.

I clicked on the subscription button on that page, nothing available when it redirects.

Basically free money for them and they shut it down.

 

[Geoarch]

I clicked on the subscription button on that page, nothing available when it redirects.

Basically free money for them and they shut it down.

That was my experience as well.

 

[PyrPatriot]

I can't seem to find the digital subscription on tech authority. It's says not found

Maybe being migrated since FCA was bought?

That sounds like a challenge. Is the write protection when you open the thing or is it just copy protection on the USB itself? dd gives no fucks about copy protection so I feel like that would be trivial.

Yup. I'm a Linux user, so was thinking similar, but just as a challenge. I will buy it legally if I can find it. I see the subscription on all data (for 2020 only, but I'm sure nothing really changed) but I can't find a used USB anywhere.

I can copy it but cannot access the files without the USB drive being inserted. I'm not a complete novice at computer stuff, but I couldn't find where all the data was being kept. Looking at the USB it looked like there was only a few kb of data on it despite tens of thousands of pages of information and videos. It didn't link to an online source either, I could access it in airplane mode. I could copy the entire drive to my hard drive and open those files, but only if the key was inserted.

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