Jeep Gladiator 4xe PHEV Hybrid is coming says head of Jeep Brand 👍

[JAY]

Rest assured, the PHEV Gladiator 4xe is still coming according to head of Jeep Brand, Jim Morrison!

"All I can say is stay tuned," said Morrison at an event to preview the updated 2024 Gladiator, which was revealed today at the 2023 Detroit Auto Show.

"By 2025 we’ve said we’ll electrify the entire range, so by deduction you know that’s coming." added Morrison when asked about a Gladiator 4xe.

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[TheGerman]

Wondering with what engine they want to pair it. I have a Wrangler 4xe and it's fun to drive on roads. Now, I also have a JTRD, and I love the low end torque and fuel mileage even when towing, but I have doubt's the current 2.0T engine of the 4xe setup will provide a similar experience.

 

[Whitewilly1le]

"stay tuned" certainly doesn't mean a 4xe gladiator is coming LOL

 

[JAY]

"stay tuned" certainly doesn't mean a 4xe gladiator is coming LOL

But "so by deduction you know that’s coming" certainly does since he says that in direct response to a question whether the 4xe Gladiator is coming.

 

[mrsooner]

This could mean that a PHEV Dodge Dakota is coming to replace it. I would not be surprised

 

[Minty JL]

meh

MY24.... got a screen, power seats, steel bumpers on the Mojave and ridiculous upcharge packaging.

Upcharging packages........on the MY24 JLUR, if you want painted fenders you have to pay $10k more for the Rubicon X

 

[Whitewilly1le]

But "so by deduction you know that’s coming" certainly does since he says that in direct response to a question whether the 4xe Gladiator is coming.

I'd be willing to bet money that the gladiator doesn't survive into 2025. Something else is coming

 

[AmosMoses]

That sounds promising as there are at least 5-7 people on the forum that are waiting for its release.

Keep saving guys

 

[Rahkmalla]

$10k more for the Rubicon X

the whole "X" packaging is such bs, but it's nowhere near as bad as ditching the overland trim. Leather seats are now VERY expensive on a gladiator

 

[Wolf Island Diver]

The lack of changes to the 24’ make more sense if a PHEV is coming in 25’ as a major redesign. There’s a lot of possibilities in a truck form factor. Eventually a large solid state battery system (I don’t think that’s coming to the 4xe soon), coupled with a tiny engine as a range extender will make ICE Jeeps obsolete. The JL 4xe gamble paid off so Jeep has every incentive to make their next iteration of a hybrid more EV with a bigger battery and a smaller engine.

Look at what Koenigsegg is doing with a 3 cylinder freevalve hybrid drivetrain. We don’t need 2000HP so a much detuned, smaller, cheaper version of this concept with a little 3 cylinder engine and a powerful electric motor would be killer. You don’t need a big engine for V8 torque if you have a motor.

There’s other benefits to a full PHEV lineup. Jeep can stop wasting money on stuff that no one wants just to meet their CAFE requirements. They can focus on what sells which is Wrangler, Gladiator and Grand Cherokee. They can worry less about the effect on fleet mileage from big tires and more off road centric features. In other words, an electrified Jeep lineup might very well be a more hardcore lineup. Electrification also presents some opportunities for alternative forms of 4x4. Ditching driveshafts and axles opens up a lot of possibilities. They don’t have to stick to a traditional drivetrain if they use a pure motor-based system with an ICE for charging. Lastly electrification, means better built-in overlanding features. I just hope these don’t cost $100k, but in theory the ability to focus on profitable platforms should make them more affordable.

 

[dmwphoto]

I'd be willing to bet money that the gladiator doesn't survive into 2025. Something else is coming

Id probably take that bet....

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Wondering with what engine they want to pair it. I have a Wrangler 4xe and it's fun to drive on roads. Now, I also have a JTRD, and I love the low end torque and fuel mileage even when towing, but I have doubt's the current 2.0T engine of the 4xe setup will provide a similar experience.

Wanna bet?
The Wrangler 4xe has higher horse power and torque than the 5.7 and you can bet because of the towing necessity (JT can't survive without its payload and towing abilities) there's going to be even better coming.
Romp a 4xe in 4Hauto and brace yourself. That torque is there NOW, not in some RPM band.
(it limits torque in 2H - but doesn't limit it in 4HA)
Have you seen the video of the fellow racing his 4xe?

 

[BourbonRunner]

The lack of changes to the 24’ make more sense if a PHEV is coming in 25’ as a major redesign. There’s a lot of possibilities in a truck form factor. Eventually a large solid state battery system (I don’t think that’s coming to the 4xe soon), coupled with a tiny engine as a range extender will make ICE Jeeps obsolete. The JL 4xe gamble paid off so Jeep has every incentive to make their next iteration of a hybrid more EV with a bigger battery and a smaller engine.

Look at what Koenigsegg is doing with a 3 cylinder freevalve hybrid drivetrain. We don’t need 2000HP so a much detuned, smaller, cheaper version of this concept with a little 3 cylinder engine and a powerful electric motor would be killer. You don’t need a big engine for V8 torque if you have a motor.

There’s other benefits to a full PHEV lineup. Jeep can stop wasting money on stuff that no one wants just to meet their CAFE requirements. They can focus on what sells which is Wrangler, Gladiator and Grand Cherokee. They can worry less about the effect on fleet mileage from big tires and more off road centric features. In other words, an electrified Jeep lineup might very well be a more hardcore lineup. Electrification also presents some opportunities for alternative forms of 4x4. Ditching driveshafts and axles opens up a lot of possibilities. They don’t have to stick to a traditional drivetrain if they use a pure motor-based system with an ICE for charging. Lastly electrification, means better built-in overlanding features. I just hope these don’t cost $100k, but in theory the ability to focus on profitable platforms should make them more affordable.

All very good points and makes total sense.

Which is why I'm fairly certain you're a witch and should be burned at the stake.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Even those waving the EV banner a while back are saying that the PHEV makes sense to more people and is an obvious stepping stone.
Stellantis has patented some interesting new battery concepts, Tesla is promising rare earth minerals will not be needed for their motors and some are saying that will leak out into the other companies really quickly, making the electric motors a whole lot cheaper to produce. They use permanent magnets and that's there the RE stuff goes - into making those powerful magnets, driving up costs. Take those materials out of the equation, prices drop.

I'm looking forward to see how this one turns out.

 

[TheGerman]

Wanna bet?
The Wrangler 4xe has higher horse power and torque than the 5.7 and you can bet because of the towing necessity (JT can't survive without its payload and towing abilities) there's going to be even better coming.
Romp a 4xe in 4Hauto and brace yourself. That torque is there NOW, not in some RPM band.
(it limits torque in 2H - but doesn't limit it in 4HA)
Have you seen the video of the fellow racing his 4xe?

As I mentioned, I do have the Wrangler 4xe, and it's mostly fun until the battery is depleted <1% , then you're pretty much relying on the 2.0T, and if you don't keep it in higher RPM it lagging and there's a ton of shifting going on to compensate. Don't get me wrong, I still love the 4xe for the purpose I got it, but it's not my preference for longer trips fully loaded and pulling a trailer.

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